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Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek

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Post subject: RE: Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek  PostPosted: 03.01.2006 - 22:06 #27234
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eXplorer: viem si predstavit napisat vcelku jednoduche pravidla na source routing pokial su tie moznosti na vylezenie len 2 a medzi nimi existuje jedna trasa s viacerymi routermi (na ktorych su zavesene LANky), pokial tych tras (a pripadne aj vylezov) ale moze byt viacero tak sa to uz neda spravit (neda sa univerzalne klasifikovat packety bludiace po "chrbtici" Smile )
 
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Post subject: RE: Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek  PostPosted: 01.04.2006 - 23:22 #33224
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si wrote: ›eXplorer: viem si predstavit napisat vcelku jednoduche pravidla na source routing pokial su tie moznosti na vylezenie len 2 a medzi nimi existuje jedna trasa s viacerymi routermi (na ktorych su zavesene LANky), pokial tych tras (a pripadne aj vylezov) ale moze byt viacero tak sa to uz neda spravit (neda sa univerzalne klasifikovat packety bludiace po "chrbtici" Smile )


ja by som potreboval nakopnut spravnym smerom ale malo by to byt asi takto:

Kupujeme garant linku vela penazi, a DSL malo penazi.

Potreboval by som asi toto porty 80 21 Mail ICQ a SKYPE aby isli cez garant a P2P a ostatne cez DSL.

Dalo by sa to spravit
 
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Post subject: RE: Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek  PostPosted: 02.04.2006 - 00:37 #33228
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Problem nie je v tom "ako to routovat" ale v tom "ako oddelit P2P od SKYPE a od normalneho trafficu" ... ak to spolahlivo dokazes a si si tym isty mozeme sa bavit dalej o tom ako to routovat ... je to otazka na par riadkov vo firewalle a v routovacej tabulke ...

Napriklad taky SKYPE je vlastne P2P, pouziva vsetky porty a to aj port HTTP a HTTPS teda 80 a 443 ... takze podla portov to routovat rozhodne nemozes.
 
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Post subject: RE: Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek  PostPosted: 02.04.2006 - 01:08 #33230
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eXplorer wrote: ›Problem nie je v tom "ako to routovat" ale v tom "ako oddelit P2P od SKYPE a od normalneho trafficu" ... ak to spolahlivo dokazes a si si tym isty mozeme sa bavit dalej o tom ako to routovat ... je to otazka na par riadkov vo firewalle a v routovacej tabulke ...

Napriklad taky SKYPE je vlastne P2P, pouziva vsetky porty a to aj port HTTP a HTTPS teda 80 a 443 ... takze podla portov to routovat rozhodne nemozes.


Teras pozeram ze je Skype mozne nastavit na port 80 to by neslo astatok by od portu 1000 dat na tu druhu linku
 
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Post subject: RE: Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek  PostPosted: 02.04.2006 - 02:17 #33231
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skype je dafaultne na nastaveny na 80 a 443(incoming connections) ale to neznamena nic, odchadzajuce spojenia idu kade lahsie, cisty random.
zakaz p2p a mas to jednoduchsie, lebo Skype a p2p neoddelis, jedine tak mozno s tymto: http://www.allot.com/pages/product_cont ... GlobalId=1 Smile
 
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Post subject: RE: Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek  PostPosted: 02.04.2006 - 03:02 #33233
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neos wrote: ›skype je dafaultne na nastaveny na 80 a 443(incoming connections) ale to neznamena nic, odchadzajuce spojenia idu kade lahsie, cisty random.
zakaz p2p a mas to jednoduchsie, lebo Skype a p2p neoddelis, jedine tak mozno s tymto: http://www.allot.com/pages/product_cont ... GlobalId=1 Smile


ok co to stji ak by som to kupil tak by som mohol oddelit p2p

ak nekupim toto ako zakazem p2p
 
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Post subject: RE: Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek  PostPosted: 02.04.2006 - 09:42 #33235
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pipko23 wrote: ›
neos wrote: ›skype je dafaultne na nastaveny na 80 a 443(incoming connections) ale to neznamena nic, odchadzajuce spojenia idu kade lahsie, cisty random.
zakaz p2p a mas to jednoduchsie, lebo Skype a p2p neoddelis, jedine tak mozno s tymto: http://www.allot.com/pages/product_cont ... GlobalId=1 Smile


ok co to stji ak by som to kupil tak by som mohol oddelit p2p

ak nekupim toto ako zakazem p2p


Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
niekde tu na fore mas napisane kolko to stoji. zevraj to vyuziva (neviem ci presne tento model) slovanet Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
 
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Post subject: RE: Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek  PostPosted: 02.04.2006 - 13:05 #33246
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Toto zariadenie stoji radovo niekolko 100 000, to len pre zaujimavost. Na zakazanie p2p posluzi ipp2p modul do iptables. www.ipp2p.org
 
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Post subject: RE: Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek  PostPosted: 02.04.2006 - 13:40 #33248
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neos wrote: ›Toto zariadenie stoji radovo niekolko 100 000, to len pre zaujimavost. Na zakazanie p2p posluzi ipp2p modul do iptables. www.ipp2p.org


toto mozem len odporucit. je to bomba. vdaka tomuto modulu a layer7 robim celkom uspesny traffic shaping Smile a odfiltruje p2p (edonkey, torrent, gnutella) od skype a inych packetov. akurat pocitaj s narastom pingov (3-5 ms podla obsahu packetu na mojom 1.5 Mbit a 350 MHz PII).

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7 Post subject: RE: Aktivne vyuzivanie dvoch a viac liniek  PostPosted: 25.04.2006 - 10:11 #34356
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Pozri si Multi WAN router od fy Micronet (http://www.micronet.info/model_detail.aspx?series_no=33&sno=181), pripadne si stiahni manual (link je pri obrazku routra).

Kupis ho v Blave bud v Orga-Trade, alebo v Ageme...
 
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