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aké anteny a či vôbec

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jmi
Post subject: RE: aké anteny a či vôbec  PostPosted: 02.12.2005 - 20:13 #25965
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si: to je sunnymu jasne,
all: len doplnim, ze -i 0.002 pod linuxom je zbytocny na meranie MW v pripade, ze sa nepouzije spolu s nim aj -l (to je L) s hodnotou napr. 10
[ teda tych neviem kolko mbit z toho dostanes az ked sa data posielaju stale, a nie ze sa po kazdom jednom caka na reply Smile]
 
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Post subject: RE: aké anteny a či vôbec  PostPosted: 02.12.2005 - 22:41 #25970
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jmi: na reply defaultne caka pokial viem wokenny ping, ale *nixovy nie a ked mu poviem -i 0.002 tak mi posle kazdej 0.002 sekundy packet... (overis si to napriklad tak ze si pustis tcpdump)
 
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Robert
Post subject: RE: aké anteny a či vôbec  PostPosted: 02.12.2005 - 22:50 #25972
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Obvykle kombinujem flood ping (parametre -i a -s) s iptraf. Ked dam napr. poslat 1000 paketov rychlostou 100 paketov za sekundu, niekedy to posiela cosi pomalsie (ako keby naozaj cakal na odpovede) a povie mi, ze to trvalo napr. 14000ms, pricom by to malo byt cosi nad 10000ms. Clovek si moze mysliet, ze generuje vyssi trafic ako je tomu v skutocnosti. iptraf ukaze realny prietok bytov rozhranim. Parametre treba zvolit tak, aby bol spoj saturovany, ale este nedochadzalo k strate paketov. Vtedy iptraf ukaze max. kapacitu spoja vo full duplexe, samozrejme, odchodzi aj prichodzi smer musia ukazovat rovnake hodnoty.
 
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sunnyday
Post subject: RE: aké anteny a či vôbec  PostPosted: 05.12.2005 - 11:55 #26036
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Dakujem za doplnenie sicko... mozno este dalsi example merania... flood ping
ping IP -s 1450 -f -l 10
parameter -l - kolko paketov posle bez cakania na reply
 
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jmi
Post subject: RE: aké anteny a či vôbec  PostPosted: 07.12.2005 - 19:51 #26180
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si wrote: ›jmi: na reply defaultne caka pokial viem wokenny ping, ale *nixovy nie a ked mu poviem -i 0.002 tak mi posle kazdej 0.002 sekundy packet... (overis si to napriklad tak ze si pustis tcpdump)


podla mojich skusenosti, pre ping co je v RH 7.3 az FC 2 to tak nie je vzdy, vid niektore pokusne vysledky

Quote: › ping juh -s 1450 -i 0.01 -c 1000
--- juh.tnet ping statistics ---
1000 packets transmitted, 1000 received, 0% packet loss, time 16475ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 4.002/4.389/12.807/0.732 ms, pipe 3
(nic sa nestrati, max ping 12ms a predsa mu to trvalo 16s a stroje to snad stihaju, vid pokus kde je -l definovane)


Quote: › nice -n -10 ping juh -s 1450 -i 0.01 -c 100
--- juh.tnet ping statistics ---
100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 1492ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 4.011/4.353/13.093/0.961 ms, pipe 3


Quote: › nice -n -10 ping juh -s 5000 -i 0.01 -c 100
--- juh.tnet ping statistics ---
100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 1729ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7.324/8.127/16.114/1.041 ms, pipe 3


Quote: › nice -n -10 ping juh -s 5000 -i 0.01 -c 100 -l 10
--- juh.tnet ping statistics ---
100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 894ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7.067/10.688/38.309/5.232 ms, pipe 8


pre uplonost
Quote: › nice -n -10 ping juh -s 5000 -A -c 100
--- juh.tnet ping statistics ---
100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 1247ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7.090/8.072/14.049/0.876 ms, pipe 3, ipg/ewma 12.596/7.942 ms


Quote: › ping -V
ping utility, iputils-ss020927


inak je to compexovy 5ghz spoj na asi 3.5km

no porobil som dalsich asi 30 testov a nedava to ziadnu logiku, ani po 100mbit

tak predsa som cosi nasiel. Nehladal som presnu hranicu, ale pokial je -i parameter aspon 0.02 tak to sedi s tym co hovoris ty. Pokial je 0.01 a mensi tak to nesedi a realny cas sa "mozno da odhadnut" s odchylkou asi 20% ako pocet_paketov*(interval+avg_rtt), vid priklady:

Quote: › ping juh -i 0.01 -c 1000 -s 1450
--- juh.tnet ping statistics ---
1000 packets transmitted, 1000 received, 0% packet loss, time 16313ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 4.000/4.374/9.848/0.585 ms, pipe 2

ping juh -i 0.01 -c 1000
--- juh.tnet ping statistics ---
1000 packets transmitted, 1000 received, 0% packet loss, time 14225ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.299/2.634/7.764/0.513 ms, pipe 2

ping juh -i 0.01 -c 1000 -s 5000
--- juh.tnet ping statistics ---
1000 packets transmitted, 1000 received, 0% packet loss, time 16946ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 6.858/8.162/15.675/0.974 ms, pipe 3


inak zaujimave je ze ked dam 0.005 tak cas klesne asi na 60-70% toho co bolo pre 0.01

koniec experimentov, cakaju ma, ideme zapit divny ping Smile
 
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matos1
Post subject: RE: aké anteny a či vôbec  PostPosted: 27.06.2006 - 01:45 #37103
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aku antenu by ste mi odporucili?

RF elements - Direct 15 Vysokosmerová parabolická anténa, zvýšená odolnost proti opačnej polarizácii až
23,59 dB, vhodná na použitie v mestách, prevedenie ABS + hliník, Špičková kvalita, možnosť oboch polarizácií, kĺbový záves. 1 650,0 Sk bdph

Anténa PW 19 Smerová anténa Pacific Wireless PW 19 dB 1 590,0 Sk bdph
spoj na cca2km zarusenost ziadna
 
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andreas4all
Post subject: RE: aké anteny a či vôbec  PostPosted: 27.06.2006 - 10:57 #37112
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dedinka pri PD

s PW19 mam velmi dobru skusenost. aj ked je znacne narusena fresnejka tak ide relativne v pohode... signal sa ako tak drzi a rychlost je stabilna... ine anteny sa ani nechitili
 
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matos1
Post subject: RE: aké anteny a či vôbec  PostPosted: 28.06.2006 - 00:41 #37142
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Location: hranica s ukrajinou...
a nebude ta RF elements - Direct 15 lepsia?
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Dimension:
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Gain:
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-3 dB Beamwidth:
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Weight:
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Conector:
SMA reverse polarity
Material:
AL + ABS
Polarization:
Horizontal / Vertical
Front to Back:
20 dB
Impedance:
50 OHM
Cross Pole:
23,59 dB
 
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pixall
Post subject: RE: aké anteny a či vôbec  PostPosted: 28.06.2006 - 21:03 #37176
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matos1 wrote: ›a nebude ta RF elements - Direct 15 lepsia?


vzhladom na konstrukciu ma uzsi vyzarovaci uhol a lepsi predozadny pomer... inymi slovami ano bude lepsia Smile
 
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matos1
Post subject: RE: aké anteny a či vôbec  PostPosted: 29.06.2006 - 00:58 #37185
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parada, skvela odpoved, DIK!
 
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