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Pigtail 5m

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KraMordor
4 Post subject: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 11.12.2005 - 20:26 #26331
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Chcel by som vediet ci ma niekto skusenosti s 5merovym pigtailom ak hej tak ake...
 
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Dikobraz
Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 11.12.2005 - 20:34 #26333
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Tak tejto otazke nerozumiem. Pigtail je kus koaxialu s koncovkami. Laughing
 
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Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 11.12.2005 - 20:50 #26334
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http://www.wificentrum.sk/buxus/generat ... amp;lng=sk
 
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Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 11.12.2005 - 20:55 #26335
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co je to ze skusenosti....Nema velku stratu , celkom dobre sa da ohybat.....tod vse
 
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andreas4all
Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 11.12.2005 - 21:12 #26336
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dedinka pri PD

ja mam na sieti aj desat metrov...
 
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tulo
Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 11.12.2005 - 22:06 #26338
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Ja osobne uz pigtaily ani nekupujem robim si kable vzdy na mieru sam, sem tam sa nepodari, ale mam kabel vzdy na mieru
 
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Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 11.12.2005 - 23:33 #26341
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5 metrov je sialene vela na pigtail...
 
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Post subject: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 12.12.2005 - 00:11 #26342
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KraMordor wrote: ›Chcel by som vediet ci ma niekto skusenosti s 5merovym pigtailom ak hej tak ake...


vyborne Surprised) od isteho casu sme presli z hrubych kablov na tieto tenke, zacali sme davat zariadenia blizsie k antenam, a pohoda... zhruba 7 metrov je taka hranica, po ktoru vychadza so stratou lepsie tenky kabel. hruby kabel ma sice nizsiu stratu, ale musi sa k nemu pouzit este redukcia a tam sa tiez nieco strati a poodraza... a pretoze snad uz nikde nemame viac nez 7m kabla, chodime len s tymito tenkymi. wificentrum ma na stranke len 5m, v kosiciach mame v ponuke aj ine dlzky..
 
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Robert
Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 12.12.2005 - 09:29 #26345
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Quote: › vyborne ) od isteho casu sme presli z hrubych kablov na tieto tenke, zacali sme davat zariadenia blizsie k antenam, a pohoda... zhruba 7 metrov je taka hranica, po ktoru vychadza so stratou lepsie tenky kabel. hruby kabel ma sice nizsiu stratu, ale musi sa k nemu pouzit este redukcia a tam sa tiez nieco strati a poodraza...

Presne toto je moja cerstva skusenost. Zda sa, ze duplom plati pre 5GHz, kde strata na konektoroch narastie vyrazne viac ako strata v kabli. Po niekolkohodinovom experimentovani a merani RSSI sme skoncili pri vyse 5m tenkom kabli na 5GHz zariadeni, ktory mal vsak tu vyhodu, ze bol z jedneho kusa, ziadne spojky. Pritom spoj nakoniec chodil lepsie ako cokolvek, co som videl predtym.

Zda sa, ze rozhoduje aj to, ci su konektory krimpovane alebo spajkovane. Jediny spoj s krimpovanymi konektormi, ktory mame, vykazuje vyrazne nizsie RSSI (a tym padom aj rychlost) napriek podstatne kratsim kablom.
 
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Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 12.12.2005 - 10:18 #26347
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To Robert:
Ta to si ma potesil. Na najdolezitejsom spoji mm krimpovane konektory. Crying or Very sad

Ale podla mna mas bud blbe konektory alebo zle zakrimpovane.

Mi pouzivame vylucne RF240 na 5GHz a H155 na 2,4GHz. Rovno tam krimpujeme RSMA a Nko.
 
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Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 12.12.2005 - 11:05 #26349
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Robert sa bud zle vyjadril alebo robi ozaj hlupost.

konektory su bud krimplovacie alebo skrutkovacie a v oboch pripadoch je mozne stredovy pin krimplovat alebo pajkovat. ALE beda tomu kto by chcel pin iba krimplovat ten sa nesmie cudovat ze mu nic nechodi ako ma. Kazdopadne aj v pripade krimplovacich aj pripade skrutkovacich konektorov treba stredovy pin kvalitne priletovat (nie iba prilepit ako to vacsina robi) nasledne zakrimplovat alebo zaskrutkovat. Z praxe viem povedat ze kvalitnejsi je asi krimplovany konektor pretoze je jednoduhsie zabezpecit neporusenie opletenia a zachovat tak impedanciu kabla. Pri skrutkovacom je to vacsia piplacka ale da sa aj tam. Profi konektory pre tieto typy kablov su vyhradne krimplovcie. A hlavne ziadne dopasovavanie konektorov, konektor musi byt presne na dany typ kabla. Inak sa mozete snazit ako chcete pojde to potom ajtak len podla nahody.
 
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Robert
Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 12.12.2005 - 18:01 #26362
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Robime to nasledovne:

stredovy pin: priletovany
konektor: krimpovany

Na tom horsom spoji je stredovy pin krimpovany.
 
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Post subject: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 19.02.2006 - 15:46 #30682
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[quote="pixall"]
KraMordor wrote: ›Chcel by som vediet ci ma niekto skusenosti s 5merovym pigtailom ak hej tak ake...


ja by som to chcel spravit takto :pigtail by som ti spravil taky kratky aby prakticky bol iba ako redukcia aj tak by tam bola strata taka velka, alebo je strata dana len tym ze je to vpodstate redukcia?(alebo podstatne aj dlzkou pigtailu)

Mozno jeto len hlupost skuste mi odpovedat niekto ak s tym mate skusenosti

PS:Uvazujem nad tym preto, lebo ak su na pigtaili take straty tak si ho skratim na minimalnu moznu dlzku dam na zariadeni o nejaky ten Db menej a vpodstate mam stratu len na vystupe signalu a na prijme je strata mensia ked pri kratsom pigtaili je podstatne mensia strata


ak jeto hlupost alebo fatamorgana co som tu popisal tak si to nevsimajte

PS2:zariadenie planujem dat co najblizsie k antene hlavne kvoli prichadzajucenu signalu aby sa min pohltil na ceste od anteny k zariadeniu
 
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si
Post subject: RE: Pigtail 5m  PostPosted: 19.02.2006 - 15:53 #30683
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jablko: pokial budes pigtail skracovat, tak u inteligentnych ludi sa pouzivaju dlzky pigtailov ktore su celociselnym nasobkom lambda/2 (kvoli odrazom) tak skus si to aj podla toho zratat a upravit Smile
 
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