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The time now is 28.04.2024 - 16:22


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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 08.04.2006 - 18:17 #33659
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majklxxx: ked budes mat troska vacsi pocet klientov, tak si pri PCI kartach vytrhas praxy a prerobis omnoho viacej na servise ako keby si im pri instalacii hoc aj doplatil rozdiel ceny medzi kartou a HW AP z vlastneho vacku...
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 08.04.2006 - 18:23 #33661
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to robert: tie yaginy co si spominal od nejakeho lokalneho ISP nemas nahodou na mysli zilinske wificentrum??? bral som jednu a tak som na nu nadaval, ze som mal stochuti poslat ju sickovi aby s nou vytrieskal ludi v tusr (sorry si ale na tvoj vyrok asi tak lahko nezabudnem). ok bola tam dobra cena ale kvalita stala za... a mozno aj viac.
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 08.04.2006 - 18:50 #33667
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si wrote: ›majklxxx: ked budes mat troska vacsi pocet klientov, tak si pri PCI kartach vytrhas praxy a prerobis omnoho viacej na servise ako keby si im pri instalacii hoc aj doplatil rozdiel ceny medzi kartou a HW AP z vlastneho vacku...


ja ISP nie som, ale viem ze niektory ISPovia davaju normalne karty do PC a napr ak sa daco d*serie tak musia zavolat technika a tomu musia platit... robia to tak aj s WEP klucom, prvykrat je instalacia a konfig v cene -- cca 4000sk a potom menej skuseny uzivatel reinstalne Win a musi platit za znovunastavenie (WEP,IP..)
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 08.04.2006 - 19:20 #33668
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Quote: › to robert: tie yaginy co si spominal od nejakeho lokalneho ISP nemas nahodou na mysli zilinske wificentrum??? bral som jednu a tak som na nu nadaval, ze som mal stochuti poslat ju sickovi aby s nou vytrieskal ludi v tusr (sorry si ale na tvoj vyrok asi tak lahko nezabudnem). ok bola tam dobra cena ale kvalita stala za... a mozno aj viac.

Jo. V com je problem? Na dedinach to chodi perfektne, do mesta by bolo asi treba cosi silnejsie.
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 08.04.2006 - 19:24 #33669
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problem spojit sa na vzdialenost par sto metrov (cca 250) v nezarusenom prostredi na dedine
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 08.04.2006 - 21:35 #33672
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Ja pouzivam toto http://wifi.aspa.cz/zbozi.php?detail=36866, Cena 2500 Sk. spoj na 12 dB vsesmerovku na 2 km, signal to ukazuje okolo 30 %.
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 09.04.2006 - 11:31 #33683
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Quote: › problem spojit sa na vzdialenost par sto metrov (cca 250) v nezarusenom prostredi na dedine

Tak to musis mat iny problem. Tie anteny maju udajne 15dBi. Neviem, nakolko tento udaj zodpoveda pravde, ale javia sa silnejsie ako 10dB panelky. Okrem klientskej instalacie je to idealna antena na p2p spoje do 1,5km.

Pred tyzdnom sme spustali trasu do kamenolomu (dva skoky po 1,3-1,5km) , ktoru nam vsak nechceli velmi zaplatit. Su tam dva podniky, inak tu trasu na nic ine nevyuzijeme, preto to bola podmienka. Nakoniec sme to vyriesili tak, ze sme tam dali absolutne najlacnejsie veci (uvedene Yaginy a Ovislinky WL5460 v p2p rezime) a dohodli 18-mesacnu viazanost. Povodne naklady sme zrazili takmer na tretinu a pritom to funguje to ako ma.
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 09.04.2006 - 11:51 #33685
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neviem, ale ja som nemal dobru skusenost s touto zaginou, inak som pocul dobre veci na nu... preto som ju vlastne aj kupil, ale uy nikdz viac.
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 11.04.2006 - 11:51 #33770
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Tak k teme:
- najprv sa robili z pringles "http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/PringlesCantenna", spravil som si 2 ale este som neskusal
- potom dala najviac dbi tiez plechovka (16-17dbi):
- "http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/wlg/1124"
- "http://flakey.info/antenna/waveguide/"
- Alebo tato s 15dbi "http://www.cruftbox.com/cruft/docs/cantenna.html"
- No ked chcete vacsie vzdialenosti tak dobre vysledky su kombinacia plechovky s parabolou:
- "http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/DirectionalParabolic"
- Mimochodom rekord je 125 mil "http://www.seattlewireless.net/LongShots"
- No a potom tu mate este porovnania medzi pringles a dvoma plechovkami inych rozmerov:
- "http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html"
- Dalsie 2 zaujimave linky (to s tym legom je dost dobre):
- "http://www3.sympatico.ca/dugtan/wireless/lego_antenna.htm"
- "http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html"
- pomocna je aj tato tabulka o "optimalnych rozmeroch plechovky":
- "http://www.concentrate.com.au/misc/circular_waveguide_optimise.xls"

Tak dufam ze som Vam aspon s tymto pomohol.
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 11.04.2006 - 15:41 #33796
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mj357 wrote: ›Tak k teme:
- najprv sa robili z pringles "http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/PringlesCantenna", spravil som si 2 ale este som neskusal
- potom dala najviac dbi tiez plechovka (16-17dbi):
- "http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/wlg/1124"
- "http://flakey.info/antenna/waveguide/"
...
Tak dufam ze som Vam aspon s tymto pomohol.


no na tych linkoch su väcsinou plechovky, ale aj tak dik...
plechovku s F spojkou (ktora zasahuje az do vnutra plech.) mam, ale asi si skusim vyrobit kvalitnejsie (menej odflaknutu)..
alebo nejaky quad, ma niekto skusnosti s quadom (bi, alebo quadro)?
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 11.04.2006 - 16:17 #33801
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Jasne quad som tiez skusal. Ide to zhruba ako plechovka ale pri quade viac kolisal signal. Podla mojho nazoru je najlepsia home antena plechovka s lievikom. Chapem ze ta laka vyrobit a odskusat a povedat -hmmmmm moje dielo..... Ja som tiez skusal vsetky mozne anteny a nakoniec mam vsade csat-y a pw. Original je original, ziadne problemy Smile
 
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Post subject: RE: Naj homemade antena  PostPosted: 14.04.2006 - 17:28 #33992
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Robert wrote: ›
Quote: › to robert: tie yaginy co si spominal od nejakeho lokalneho ISP nemas nahodou na mysli zilinske wificentrum??? bral som jednu a tak som na nu nadaval, ze som mal stochuti poslat ju sickovi aby s nou vytrieskal ludi v tusr (sorry si ale na tvoj vyrok asi tak lahko nezabudnem). ok bola tam dobra cena ale kvalita stala za... a mozno aj viac.

Jo. V com je problem? Na dedinach to chodi perfektne, do mesta by bolo asi treba cosi silnejsie.


Robert, nemas namysli nahodou take:
http://yagi.pl/product_info.php/cPath/26/products_id/279?osCsid=b33c2df5443f2ad2463391f2c801e9c2
 
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