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midnight_man
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 05.02.2015 - 19:37 #108354
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Chalan wrote: ›midnight a co AF24HD? Smile
o dôvod viac kupovat 17tky.
 
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kemper
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 05.02.2015 - 19:46 #108357
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midnight_man wrote: ›No pretoze to pri 100m+ a plnom vykone prazi vsade naookolo....a je rozdiel či máš sektor pri spoji kde tecie 40-50 a pri spoji kde tecie 100M. Také spoje su vrazda 5G. Ale to je to iste dookola....

Ano pouzit to na bezne 5G spoje s 10-20Mhz je uplne super. Lenze to nik tak robit nebude, pretoze ta to bude stat 1000€.

70% ludi to jebne na default vykon a 100Mhz...nech to sype 200mega.

Rado na AF5 a AF24 mam svoj nazor...a veru nie je dobrý.


Preco ? AF24 mam +- rok a ide v pohode . Zatial musim poklopat , ziaden problem co sa o raketach a nanobeam neda povedat...
 
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midnight_man
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 05.02.2015 - 19:50 #108358
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Ale ved nik nepovedal ze nejde....(az na par drobnosti)...problem je inde Wink, vykon, sirka pasma..efektivita vyuzitia spektra. Dajme tomu este par rokov, nech si vsetci nakupia AF24ky a uvidite čo je to rušenie na 24Ghz.
 
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Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 05.02.2015 - 20:40 #108359
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No to mi je jasne ze na 24 je prd volneho pasma . Ale smerovost AF24 je dost vysoka , ked ich napr polozis vedla seba a nesmeruju jeden do druheho tak sa nespoja a to ani nemusia smerovat velmo mimo , staci trochu pootocit a signal je 0 . A to v uzavretom priestore , kde 5tak ide aj ked anteny otocis chrbtom . Preco uz konecne nezacne UBNT vyrabat licencaky v rozumnej cene ? Napr ak by stal 2000E Ako AF 24 , kto by si to nekupil , aby mal pokoj od rusenia ? Zaplatila by sa licencia a bol by pokoj roky ...
 
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midnight_man
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 05.02.2015 - 21:22 #108360
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Lenze tu nejde o to, že tebe sa neasociuje rádio Smile tu je o to, že po ceste a v okolí žereš celé 24Ghz pásmo, niet kam uhnúť. Že je smerové, to je OK, lenže pri radiach v 17/24Ghz rušenie -90 znamená nefunkčný spoj. Takže ..je to na zváženie.

Ona tá cena AFka ma svoje dovody....jednym je aj predpotopná modulácia.
 
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JOFO
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 05.02.2015 - 23:41 #108361
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tak nastastie je maximum pri AF5X 50Mhz, takze 100MHz jednym spojom nezaberies.. Ja osobne vidim vyuzite na exponovanejsich p2p prepojoch, kde si nemozem dovolit zavesit opachu ako AF5 ci AF24 ale 4000k za spoj je tam uz vela.. Ta 23db antenka je celkom sikovna. Nespornou vyhodou je aj mala spotreba a moznost napajat 24V. Osobne mi staci aj 20Mhz max 30Mhz. Ide mi skor o to, aby mi na spoji v spicke nezacali lietat latencie hore-dole. Staci mi tam aj 135M/45M ale so stabilnou latenciou. Ale tiez sa obavam toho, ze vacsina "hulvatov" s tym bude prazit 50Mhz 49db. A mozno sa najdu aj taki, co s tym budu laborovat a budu na to pripajat panelky za par eur... Sad
 
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Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 06.02.2015 - 00:39 #108362
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Myslel som ze to pouziva 50+50Mhz (kedze mas separatne freq na RX a TX). Lenze teraz citam ze je to Half duplex radio, cize 500/500Mbsps je HDD. Pritom ale pisu ze to vyuziva TDD a frekvencie su samostatne rozhoditelne do spektra + je to MIMO 2X2. Cize nie je problem nastavit 50+50Mhz do spektra a zabijes 100Mhz...

Akurat pozeram ze tie origo anteny k tomu pouzivaju 45° polarizaciu....
 
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Chalan
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 06.02.2015 - 08:42 #108364
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parada 45stupnov Smile idealne na sektorku...
 
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rado3105
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 06.02.2015 - 10:19 #108365
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kolko to vlastne stoji...ta hd vyzera super, kovova antena, nie plastova....spotreba tam je aka?
 
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Chalan
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 06.02.2015 - 11:37 #108368
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neviem co teraz myslis rado Smile
 
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rado3105
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 06.02.2015 - 11:43 #108369
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24hd myslim....
45 stupnov je nie sirka ale orientacia vln....horizontalna a vertikalna su kolmena seba....ked urobis 45 stupnov od oboch vyjdu ti orientacie tychto anten...
 
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majak
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 07.02.2015 - 03:32 #108376
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troska odbocim.. ma niekto skusenost s powerbeam-ami a vie ich porovnat s nanobeam-ami? neviem v tom najst uz nejaky ten piatok ziadny rozdiel... a druha vec. ma niekto prakticku skusenost so 62cm antenami na beam? ja pracujem len s 30kami a 40kami tak som chcel vediet ci sa to aj realne oplati ten vacsi tanier...

a btw henten novy af5x nevyzera zle ale cena je inde..
 
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JOFO
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 07.02.2015 - 11:05 #108377
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cena je praveze vyborna..
Rozdiel medzi NanoBeam a PowerBeam nie je ziadny resp rozdiel je len v rozmeroch.. male Beamy su NanoBeam a velke su PowerBeam
 
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rado3105
Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 07.02.2015 - 15:52 #108378
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presne tak cena je vyborna..keby bola nizsia hocikto by si to kupil takto je to limitovane...

powerbeam by mal mat lepsi signal ako nanobridge, kedze by mal mat lepsie ziarice, testoval to niekto?
 
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Post subject: RE: airfiber 5x  PostPosted: 07.02.2015 - 19:15 #108382
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toto napisal salvador z ubiquity:
Quote: › Hi guys,

It's true that it can be adapted by DIYers. However, we don't officially support it, and it's not possible to slant polarize that antenna, cause the AF-5G-OMT-S45 isn't compatible with RocketDish 5AC-31dBi antenna. So, in most cases it's not recommended to use AF5X with RocketDish 5AC-31dBi, unless RF spectrum in your area is very clean.


cize odporucaju slant anteny pre dosiahnutie dobrych vysledkov...
 
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